January 24 Through February 4—TUCSON, ARIZONA: Annual show
Welcome to the GemologyOnline.com Forum
A non-profit Forum for the exchange of gemological ideas
It is currently Thu Mar 28, 2024 6:55 pm

All times are UTC - 4 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:00 am 
Offline
Gemology Online Veteran

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:43 pm
Posts: 615
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
It all comes down to taste, doesn't it? Some modern art I really like, and some I don't. For instance I look at a Jackson Pollock painting and feel nothing - it just doesn't speak to me. I never really thought I cared much for Dali either, until I saw one of his actual paintings in the Chicago art museum, which made me realize they are much more amazing when seen in person.

Damian Hirst does some (to me) amazing collages. I even think the skull is pretty cool, although I wouldn't want to have it.

Art in any form is always personal, and it doesn't really even matter what the artist's intent was - if it touches you in some way then it's done it's job.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Skull
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:17 am 
Offline
Active Member

Joined: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:13 pm
Posts: 69
Original art enters the USA duty free. I wonder how this skull would be viewed by the Customs agents.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:31 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:22 pm
Posts: 21602
Location: San Francisco
anitame wrote:
It all comes down to taste, doesn't it?.


No, I don't believe it does.
If someone hates classical music, does their opinion of Johann Sebastian Bach's improvisation style at the keyboard matter to anyone except themselves?
No.

Can't the same thing be said for those who don't care for jazz, impressionism, beat literature or seafood.

Opinions on the quality of those items (or lack of) is more appropriately determined by someone who has a knowledge, admiration and appreciation of the mediums.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:13 pm 
Offline
Gemology Online Veteran

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 6:43 pm
Posts: 615
Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Barbra Voltaire wrote:
anitame wrote:
It all comes down to taste, doesn't it?.


No, I don't believe it does.
If someone hates classical music, does their opinion of Johann Sebastian Bach's improvisation style at the keyboard matter to anyone except themselves?
No.

Can't the same thing be said for those who don't care for jazz, impressionism, beat literature or seafood.

Opinions on the quality of those items (or lack of) is more appropriately determined by someone who has a knowledge, admiration and appreciation of the mediums.


No, I meant that opinions about art all come down to taste. It doesn't change the fact that it IS art, whether I can appreciate it or not. Just because I don't like Pollock doesn't mean that what he created wasn't art. Just the ability to appreciate it is what comes down to taste.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:14 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member

Joined: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:40 pm
Posts: 2667
Location: South Dakota
Barbra Voltaire wrote:
anitame wrote:
It all comes down to taste, doesn't it?.


No, I don't believe it does.
If someone hates classical music, does their opinion of Johann Sebastian Bach's improvisation style at the keyboard matter to anyone except themselves?
No.

Can't the same thing be said for those who don't care for jazz, impressionism, beat literature or seafood.

Opinions on the quality of those items (or lack of) is more appropriately determined by someone who has a knowledge, admiration and appreciation of the mediums.



["Opinions on the quality of those items (or lack of) is more appropriately determined by someone who has a knowledge, admiration and appreciation of the mediums"]
I agree 100% on that statement

_________________
MrAmethystguy ~ Some jokes just fluorite over my head!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:34 pm 
Offline
Gemology Online Übergod
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:39 pm
Posts: 3528
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
I humbly submit that a discussion on the definition and nature of "art" would take about 100 pages. ;)


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:18 pm 
Offline
Gemology Online Veteran
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:01 am
Posts: 556
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Only 97 left to go then....about time it got defined.



Tony.

_________________
www.thegemdoctor.com
Beautiful British Columbia


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 10:24 pm 
Offline
Gemology Online Übergoddess

Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:16 am
Posts: 3170
:) hello, frank!!

i did not know all of the skulls were fake. i thought there was one that is the "real deal;" the one in the indiana jones movie? just kidding! :wink:

i will search and see what i can find, and will report back to you in this post if there is at least one crystal skull which is not a fake.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:36 am 
Offline
Gemology Online Übergoddess

Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:16 am
Posts: 3170
mornin,' frank, :D

from what i have found on the crystal skulls, all are considered fake, with one being questionable, due to the skulls do not have an excavation record.

the skull which is "questionable," the mitchell-hedges skull, which was found during an excavation in belize. i honestly wonder if it is also a fake due to the tall tales which i've read the skull itself exhibits such as making people sick, etc.., the similarities it has with the crystal skull (fake) which was in the british (i think) museum, and stories the skull was purchased from sotheby's. interesting, though!!

legend of the crystal skulls:
http://www.archaeology.org/0805/etc/indy.html

the mitchell-hedges crystal skull website:
http://www.mitchell-hedges.com/

mitchell-hedges crystal skull on tour:
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 16,00.html

skeptic's site, questioning the origin of the mitchell-hedges crystal skull:
http://www.skepdic.com/crystalskull.html


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:06 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:04 pm
Posts: 1642
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
gem-n00b wrote:
I humbly submit that a discussion on the definition and nature of "art" would take about 100 pages. ;)

100? You've been conservative... :)

I can't help it, but this shiny skull reminds me an anime I was used to watch many years ago...
Good ol' fantaman! With the nasty guy trying to take over the world. Several times each episode...
Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:10 pm 
Offline
Gemology Online Übergod
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:39 pm
Posts: 3528
Location: San Francisco Bay Area, CA
maialetto wrote:
Good ol' fantaman!


Fantaman? A Coca-Cola product branded super-hero? ;)

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:17 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:04 pm
Posts: 1642
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Subliminal advertising? Maybe not that subliminal... :lol:


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:06 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:22 pm
Posts: 1117
Location: Virginia
Quote:
I humbly submit that a discussion on the definition and nature of "art" would take about 100 pages.


What about the art of nature? :D

_________________
Soil is not dirt.
http://hmmdesign.net


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:23 am 
Offline
Platinum Member

Joined: Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:47 pm
Posts: 2505
Location: Eastern Europe
(Re: nature's art) Would be only too happy to be the first one to meet the artist...

100 pages? Any subject that can fill 100 pages of polite conversation without care to conclude sounds like Heaven 8)

_________________
Vorba multa - saracia omului.[RO]


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:58 am 
Offline
Valued Contributor

Joined: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:06 am
Posts: 418
Location: uk
( Re: natures art)
If my memory is correct Dr Gubelin concluded his speech, at the golden jubilee of the Gemmological Association of G.B
with
There is no greater artist than nature her self

P.S
I do not rate Damien Hirst

_________________
http://www.mexicanamber.org.uk


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 73 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 4 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group
Gemology Style ported to phpBB3 by Christian Bullock